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I think this could be merged with Category:Portrait diptychs. -- W like wiki  Please ping me! • Postive1 • Postive2  18:13, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose A diptych is a 2-panelled piece where the pieces are attached, like this or this (although I might disagree that that second one is actually portraits). Pendant portraits are two separate pieces that are meant to be displayed together, like this or this. We might have some things in one or both of the categories that are in the wrong category. -- Auntof6 (talk) 18:42, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
that's right. Diptych is attached, in one frame, pendant - two separate paintings, made to match, same size. Other thing is that the categories should be cleared, now everything is mixed up. --Shakko (talk) 09:11, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@W like wiki, Auntof6, and Shakko: See pendant (art). Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 12:51, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Diptych
    Diptych
  • Pendant
    Pendant
@Auntof6, Shakko, and Sbb1413: Great! Thank you for your fast answers and the clear definition, especially with the two explanatory photos!! and @shakko thank you for inserting them on the category pages and already cleaning the categories!! I think we can close now the discussion? Or @Sbb1413: you posed the link to pendant (art)  Question Is there a particular point in the article that you would like to focus on or did we miss something here? Thank you already and Best Regards! -- W like wiki  Please ping me! • Postive1 • Postive2  13:38, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@W like wiki: I would like to focus on the examples of pendants at the right, where a pair of images are shown side by side using {{Multiple image}}. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 13:42, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Sbb1413: What about them? -- Auntof6 (talk) 19:43, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Auntof6: Categorize the categories categorizing the pendant pairs. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 03:31, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Sbb1413: I don't understand what you mean. Both of the categories we're discussing are categorized. Did you mean something else? -- Auntof6 (talk) 04:08, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Auntof6: I mean, the images Giovanni Paolo Panini – Ancient Rome.jpg and Giovanni Paolo Panini – Modern Rome.jpg are a pair of pendants. Both of them are hung on the same wall in the Metropolitan Museum of Art, separated by several other paintings. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs • uploads) 04:12, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Aside from the fact that those paintings aren't portraits (which is what this discussion is about), how do we know they are pendants? Sometimes artists paint the same subject more than once, but they aren't necessarily intended to be a pair (or trio, or however many).
Those particular paintings are defined as pendants in Wikidata, but I see that there are multiple versions of each (see Category:Ancient Rome (Giovanni Paolo Pannini) and Category:Modern Rome (Giovanni Paolo Pannini)). I don't know what the "rules" are for what makes something a pendant.
However, since those aren't portraits, it would be better to discuss them separately. Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 04:36, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Pendant paintings were produced to hang side by side. So art history and provenance tell us which paintings are pendants. They even need not to be shown in the same museum.
Yes I would like to close this cfdOursana (talk) 13:10, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Oursana: You didn't say how you want it closed. -- Auntof6 (talk) 14:19, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Now everybody agrees to keep everything as it is. Or what do do you mean?Oursana (talk) 14:27, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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