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Nominated by:
Charlesjsharp (talk) on 2025-11-06 10:23 (UTC) |
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Sephanoides sephaniodes (Green-backed firecrown) feeding in flight on Kniphofia |
Support Useful and used --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:37, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose @Charlesjsharp: Have opposed to give you time to respond. This is a good image and certainly VI in terms of image quality. What is troubling to me is the inclusion of a second flower species "Kniphofia" that unecessarily narrows the scope with descriptive detail. The Green-backed firecrown feeds on a number of flowers, in addition to Kniphofia. Suggest you widen the scope to "Sephanoides sephaniodes (Green-backed firecrown) feeding in flight" as a species + sub-scope. This should work here. --GRDN711 (talk) 17:42, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I would never have done this but Archaeodontosaurus has started adding plants to VI nominations. I argued the point but he is sure it is right. My view is that is you have a VI for every animal on every plant/leaf/flower then the number of VIs will explode. I remember a bug sitting of a leaf and a more recent bird perching in a tree - neither feeding. I could add hundreds of VIs on this basis! I don't really care either way, so let's wait for his response. Charlesjsharp (talk) 22:05, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment What we hope is that you bring many images of this type. It's perfect, you don't need to touch anything; instead, they want to limit it. Where's the logic? --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:53, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Archaeodontosaurus puts more work and effort into Valued Image than anyone at this forum and I know he wants VI images to be of good quality. On that, I fully agree and want this image to have a VI rating as well. The image is not the issue here; it’s just the wording in the scope - the second part of all VI nominations.
- The scope as currently written, with the double species is uniquely descriptive of your image. IMO, it is too narrow to represent “a generic field or category” and extremely unlikely that someone could make a similar image to challenge it for VI under that scope.
- I want to support your VI nomination. The question is will you consider changing wording of the scope of this VI nomination to the slightly wider one I offered, or one similar, without the double species? --GRDN711 (talk) 07:25, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I will leave as is. Charlesjsharp (talk) 17:46, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Charlesjsharp I think I have been clear on my reason to oppose and have offered what I believe is a viable way to resolve that is in keeping with the VI guidelines on scopes.
- I have not heard you directly address the scope wording issue and would like to hear your rationale for keeping it as is. To me, it's just a minor wording change to prevent your VI nomination from having a scope that is IMO too narrow.
- The fact that Archaeodontosaurus and others may have set a precedent; does not mean they were right in doing so. Even you found it was odd previously. Comment? --GRDN711 (talk) 17:40, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- IMO, if an animal species has a documented preference for a food species, then mentioning both in the scope is valid (and creating a CAT for "<animal x> feeding on <food y>". The Wikipedia page mention 3 genera of flowers preferred by the green-backed firecrown; Kniphofia is not one of them. Unless there is some other authoritative ref, I'd support GRDN711's scope suggestion. --Tagooty (talk) 04:10, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominated by:
Ввласенко (talk) on 2025-11-06 16:59 (UTC) |
Scope:
Men wearing helmets in Ukraine. Euromaidan 2014 |
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A truly significant photograph from that tragic and heroic time. The protester is wearing an SSh-40 helmet (a 1940 steel helmet, manufactured for the Soviet army in tens of millions). Other protesters also used plastic construction helmets, miners' helmets, and motorcycle helmets. Police and firefighters wore their service helmets. Therefore, i suggest specifying the helmet type in scope:
A protester wearing an SSh-40 helmet during the 2014 Euromaidan protests in Kyiv.
- The photo is not well illustrative for the current scope. Both sides of the conflict made extensive use of helmets. Therefore, i propose "A Protester" rather than a "men." Second, the protesters used various types of helmets, including sports bicycle and motorcycle helmets, plastic helmets for construction workers and miners, and even kitchen pots. It's visually impossible to distinguish between Soviet military helmets like the SSh-40, SSh-60, and SSh-68. Therefore, i propose a category like "a protester wearing a soviet military helmet..." -- George Chernilevsky talk 21:11, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- He is not a protester, but the warrior. There was no other side of the conflict, there were troops. They looked different (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Euromaidan_2014_in_Kyiv._Inverse_world.jpg) -- Ввласенко (talk) 21:55, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- To User:George Chernilevsky: After reviewing my answer, I thought its excessive brevity could have been perceived as rude. I assure you that's out of the question. I'll try to answer in more detail. The 2014 Maidan was the beginning of Russia's direct armed impact in Ukraine, aimed at its annihilation. This wasn't an internal conflict between the two sides; it began by hands of a fifth column, and has continued uninterrupted for almost 12 years. The man in the photo was one of those who fought, risking their lives. Such people would perceive the term "Protestant" as an insult, so "Category:Protestants" should not be used. There's the "Category:Men wearing helmets," which includes any person wearing any helmet. It has a subcategory called "Men wearing helmets by country," then a subcategory "Men wearing helmets in Ukraine," then "Men wearing helmets in Ukraine. Euromaidan 2014" (including all participants in those events, wearing any helmet). In my opinion, this subsequence is logical. It is possible to further subdivide them by types of helmets, but for now I don’t see the need for this.--Ввласенко (talk) 08:17, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominated by:
MasterRus21thCentury (talk) on 2025-11-07 19:57 (UTC) |
Scope:
Lyudmila Gurchenko |
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w:ru:Гурченко, Людмила Марковна |
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On November 12th would have been the 90th birthday of People's Artist of the USSR Lyudmila Gurchenko, a legend of theater and cinema who captivated the nation with her leading role in Carnival Night, and whose style in subsequent films soon inspired many women to emulate her. Until last year, Wikimedia Commons had no portrait photographs of her, and the entry for the article in various languages only featured a profile photo, which is actually a cropped image from the ceremony where she was awarded the Order "For Merit to the Fatherland" 2nd Class, exactly three months before her death. This photograph was taken by the renowned photographer Igor Gnevashev, and I nominate it in their memory. -- MasterRus21thCentury (talk) | |
Best in Scope--Gower (talk) 07:17, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominated by:
Pierre André (talk) on 2025-11-09 17:58 (UTC) |
Scope:
Altar of the Blessed Virgin. - Église Saint-Martin de Baisieux |
Comment Problème d'adressage du scope --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 18:35, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Merci pour l'info, est-ce mieux ainsi? Bonne soirée. --Pierre André (talk) 22:00, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Non si tu clique sur le lien tu ne te trouve pas sans la bonne catégorie. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:42, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- OK ,
Thank you. j'ai placé le fichier dans la bonne catégorie. --Pierre André (talk) 09:03, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Perfect now --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:04, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose image quality is horrible (lack of sharpness, pasted roses…), does not meet criterion 3 for me --Gower (talk) 09:25, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominated by:
Gower (talk) on 2025-11-13 09:36 (UTC) |
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Dorsal view of Apodemus agrarius |
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Oppose Very low-res ~0.5 MP. There are better higher res images in the CAT. --Tagooty (talk) 10:21, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment @Tagooty: , low-res indeed, it's from 2007 (If I understand correctly we don't have megapixels limits for VI) but I don't see any "better higher res images" of that kind (dorsal view) in the CAT. Which one is better? --Gower (talk) 10:54, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment notice: global usage exceedes 150 pages --Gower (talk) 10:55, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Besides quality, the colour is off. According to Wikipedia, the striped field mouse is grayish brown with a rusty tint. Most other images in Commons and in an Internet search are per the Wikipedia description, while the nom image is orange-brown. Some images that are better representations IMO: one two three four.
The nom image may have been the best image in 2007, and hence became widely-used. I guess that editors of pages will in due course replace it with better images. --Tagooty (talk) 10:16, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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